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Robert Heinlein' famous predictions

From time to time, one comes across on the Internet opinions so far divergent from one's own, that a reasonable consideration of the issue, even for someone with the patience of a philosopher, is a task worthy of Hercules, or, perhaps of Job.

I came across, for example, these words of wisdom from a Mr. Justin B. Rye:

http://www.xibalba.demon.co.uk/jbr/imo.html

He proposes, inter alia: Faith is incompatible with Occam's Razor; "Dehumanising" technology is a step in the right direction; All philosophy written before the Industrial Revolution is best forgotten; Free-market "Libertarians" are a greater threat to civilisation than Marxists; No nation to which children are routinely expected to declare their allegiance can be entirely "free."

The assertions are no doubt chosen for their shock value, but they are, as a whole, so boneheaded (pardon me, I mean, of course, that they are so distant from the world view that I espouse) that even so argumentative a person as myself cannot take them seriously enough to argue with them. Since I am content to argue with flat-earthers, true believers in astrology and Atlantis and a man who says he is married to a vampire Space Elf from the Astral Plane (no, I kid you not), you must imagine my tolerance for how lunatic an idea must be before I regard it as not worth discussing is rather generous.  But even my generosity has limits: I will not argue with someone who says the pronoun "he" does not embrace both sexes, for example.

I will, however, take issue with Mr. Rye's proposition Number 9:  In the Year of Our Lord 1997, Mr. Rye held that Heinlein's predictions for 2000 AD were laughably inaccurate. This proposition is serious enough to be worth debating. My own humble assessment is that Mr. Heinlein's predictions were, on the whole, both bold and accurate, and even when inaccurate, were understandably so, that is, a reasonable guess even if a wrong one.

Mr. Rye devoted a step-by-step analysis of Mr. Heinlein's predictions here. http://www.xibalba.demon.co.uk/jbr/heinlein.html. Mr. Rye's opinions are neither amusing nor instructive, so I will not repeat them here, or take issue with them. I will follow Mr. Rye's format, substituting my judgment on Heinlein's accuracy for his.

I rate on the following scale: A = bull's-eye accurate; B = accurate, but not a bull's-eye, where the opposite of what he predicted would nonetheless seem absurd; C = A close miss, maybe "nicked the edge"; D = A clear miss, the arrow flew into the stands, and by accident killed the princess.

There are twenty predictions in all. Under each number, the first paragraph of bold text is the original prophecy, as given in the 1950 magazine article "Pandora's Box" by the S.F. writer Robert Anson Heinlein. 

The first indented paragraph after this gives the postscripts from his amended version for 1966, "Where To?"

Lastly come the afterthoughts for the 1980 version, as collected in "Expanded Universe."

My text is plain: Mr. Heinlein's is in bold font.

Prediction One:

RAH 1950: Interplanetary travel is waiting at your front door -- C.O.D.  It's yours when you pay for it.

Mr. Heinlein speaks in a folksy manner that is easy to read, but also easy to misunderstand. Is he saying we will have trips to other planets by 2000? Well, now (I write in October of 2007) we do not have interplanetary travel, while we do have satellite launches as routine operations, and space technology has ubiquitous commercial and military uses. My cellphone goes through a satellite, and so does Google maps. We also send routine robot probes to other planets, and have sent fly-by missions to the outer planets.

My interpretation is that the prediction is that there are no TECHNICAL difficulties to interplanetary travel. We simply did not have the technical know-how to put a man on the moon or a man on Mars in 1950, when the prediction was made.

To understand what he is saying, and how visionary it was at the time, let us consult contemporary voices of greater authority than a mere sciffy hack:

  • "Space travel is utter bilge." Richard Van Der Riet Woolley, upon assuming the post of Astronomer Royal in 1956.
  • "Space travel is bunk." Sir Harold Spencer Jones, Astronomer Royal of the UK, 1957 (two weeks later Sputnik orbited the Earth).

My vote: Accurate. Interplanetary travel is here, we willing to pay for robot probes, but we are not willing to pay manned expeditions.

RAH 1966: And now we are paying for it and the cost is high.  But, for reasons understandable only to bureaucrats, we have almost halted production of a nuclear-powered spacecraft when success was in sight.  Never mind; if we don't, another country will.  By the end of this century space travel will be cheap.

Let us once again contrast Mr. Heinlein with a contemporary voice:

  •  "There is practically no chance communications space satellites will be used to provide better telephone, telegraph, television, or radio service inside the United States." T. Craven, FCC Commissioner, in 1961 (the first commercial communications satellite went into service in 1965).

            1965 was a mere four years from the Apollo 12 landing. My vote: Half accurate. Interplanetary travel is not cheap, and no other country picked up the tab. There is no prospect of an Orion-style nuclear drive spaceship in the near term. Heinlein could not have predicted (nor can current observers understand) the weird anti-Nuke cult which influences politics and industry.

RAH 1980: And now the Apollo-Saturn Man-on-the-Moon program has come and gone.  [...]  Is space travel dead?  No, because the United States is not the only nation on this planet.  [...]  By 2000 A.D. we could have O'Neill colonies, self-supporting and exporting power to Earth, at both Lagrange-4 and Lagrange-5, transfer stations in orbit about Earth and around Luna, a permanent base on Luna equipped with an electric catapult -- and a geriatrics retirement home.  However, [...] what is most likely to happen [is] that our space program will continue to dwindle.  It would not surprise me (but would distress me mightily!) to see the Space Shuttle canceled.  In the meantime some other nation or group will start exploiting space -- industry, power, perhaps Lagrange-point colonies -- and suddenly we will wake up to the fact that we have been left at the post.  [...]

He predicts that, despite the heady possibilities of an O'Neill colony and a Luna base, by 2000 the space program will continue to dwindle. This prediction is accurate.

He predicts other nations or groups will start exploiting space. Here is a current list of nations with space agencies: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_space_agencies. I do not think I need to tell an audience of science fiction readers about the Indian and Chinese space efforts, or about Spaceship One from Scaled Composites winning the Ansari X Prize. So this prediction is also accurate.

His prediction that we will wake up by 2000 is inaccurate. There was some talk in the current administration of manning a mission to Mars: but it would require an effort sustained across several administrations to see this through. I am doubtful

My vote: his prediction is not a bullseye, but consider if an futurologist from 1950 had predicted the opposite (no space travel, no rockets out of the Earth's atmo) how absurd that would seem. By that standard, I give him credit for this one.

Grade: B

Prediction Two:

RAH 1950: Contraception and control of diseases is revising relations between the sexes to an extent that will change our entire social and economic structure.

This prediction can be called inaccurate because it overstates the case: our ENTIRE social and economic structure has not changed from 1950. We still have joint-stock corporations, for example, and fractional reserve banking.

However, Mr. Heinlein is once again merely being folksy. What he means is that sexual mores will change beyond recognition. Can anyone reading these words recall, or ask his parents or grandparents to recall, what the standards were in 1950, when this prediction was made?

I can tell you what the law was: Griswold v. Connecticut was decided in 1965. Before that date, the use of contraceptives in Connecticut and in other jurisdictions, even between man and wife was illegal. Pornography, which nowadays flows from every computer, was illegal in all 48 states. Adultery, instead of winning the applause of the Democrat Party and the National Organization for Women, was illegal in all 48 states, and carried a jail term.

1950, when this prediction was made, was three years before Kinsey published his famous (or notorious) study, and homosexuality was regarded as a mental illness, and a felony. Sodomy was illegal in all 48 states, and was a felony. In 1955, Arkansas lowered the jail term penalty from five years to one. In 1960, New York downgraded the crime from a felony to a misdemeanor.

If you read this to mean that sexual mores will change beyond recognition by AD 2000, I judge this to be an accurate prediction.

RAH 1966: [...]  I am tempted to call it a fulfilled prophecy.  [...]  But the end is not yet; this revolution will go much farther and is now barely started.  [...]

Heinlein is correct. The prophecy was fulfilled, and the evolution (or degeneration) had barely started.

I will draw the readers attention, for example, to a case in Maine were a public school was giving an eleven-year-old girl contraceptives, on the theory that statutory rape is permissible if the girl is having "safe sex." http://www.mrsdutoit.com/index.php/main/single/3043/

RAH 1980: [...]  The sexual revolution: it continues apace -- Femlib, Gaylib, single women with progeny and never a lifted eyebrow [...].  Prediction: by 2000 A.D. or soon thereafter extended families of several sorts will be more common than core families.  The common characteristic of the various types will be increased security for children under legally enforceable contracts.

If we include Europe in the reckoning, single-parent families are more common than traditional nuclear families. If we consider the "traditional" nuclear family to be, as the standards of 1950 held it to be, a situation where both man and wife came to the marriage bed as virgins and did not divorce, clearly and unarguably that situation is so far in the minority as to be unheard-of, and, indeed, by the common majority opinion of these days, such a standard is regarded as absurd, perhaps even sinister or psychopathic.

He is dead wrong about increased security for children. The grimmest and most unthinkably evil aspect of the sexual revolution is the increase in the child murder rate. No, I am not talking about abortion, I am talking about children killed by their mother's live-in boyfriend.

He is also dead wrong about childrearing being enforced by legal contracts. This is because Mr. Heinlein never studied law. Marriage is not a contract; it is nothing like a contract; the idea that a contract for sexual favors or childrearing services would be held enforceable at law is nearly zero. Law works by precedent. The precedent is that pre-nuptual and post-nuptual agreements are void as against public policy. The law is that parents cannot dispose of their responsibilities as childrearers by private contract: you cannot just drop off your kid at your exgirlfriends house, pay her a sawbuck and have her raise the child. All these matters are controlled by family law courts, and this is not likely to change in the future.

If Heinlein had predicted that family law courts would establish paternity and paternal duties rather than Churches and community custom, he would have been nearer the mark.

However, the core of his prediction was that the sexual revolution would continue apace. In 1980, the Court decisions concerning Sodomy laws and Gay Marriage were still two decades in the future, and by no means easy to foretell. 

My vote: Again, consider the opposite futurologist in 1950 confidently predicting that contraception would remain illegal and abhorrent, adultery would carry a jail penalty, and that unnatural acts would never receive public acceptance. By that standard, Heinlein's prognostication is a bull's-eye.

Grade: A

Prediction Three:

RAH 1950: The most important military fact of this century is that there is no way to repel an attack from outer space.

Again, this is open to interpretation. The century is over, and no nation launched an attack on another nation with space-based weapons. However, the ability of the ICBM (which flies in the troposphere, i.e. outer space) to land an atomic missile on a city or other major civilian target was the single fact that prevented the Soviet Bloc from conquering the world. Is the fact that no one can stop an air raid from space a more important military fact, than, say, the existence of the atom bomb? Is it a more important military fact than the utility of computers to organize command and control, or more important than space-based global positioning systems?

RAH 1966: I flatly stand by this one.  [...]  This prediction is as safe as predicting tomorrow's sunrise.  Anti-aircraft fire never stopped air attacks; it simply made them expensive.  The disadvantage in being at the bottom of a deep "gravity well" is very great; gravity gauge will be as crucial in the coming years as wind gauge was in the days when sailing ships controlled empires.  The nation that controls the Moon will control the Earth -- but no one seems willing these days to speak that nasty fact out loud.

The moon is simply not an important military asset as of 2000 A.D. No one controls it and no one sees the need. This prediction is flatly wrong. The sunrise did not come up. Indeed, the main geopolitical fact controlling the Cold War was the threat of global thermonuclear exchange leading to a series of proxy wars in nasty Third World pestholes. No atomics were used in these wars. Had we had the ability during the Korean or Vietnam War to drop atomic missiles from Luna onto enemy cities, we would not have used them. It would have made no difference.

My vote: inaccurate.

RAH 1980: I have just heard a convincing report that the USSR has developed lasers far better than ours that can blind our eyes-in-the-sky satellites and, presumably, destroy our ICBMs in flight.  Stipulate that this rumour is true: It does not change my 1950 assertion one iota.  Missiles tossed from the Moon [...] arrive at approximately seven miles per second.  A laser capable of blinding a satellite and of disabling an ICBM to the point where it can't explode would need to be orders of magnitude more powerful in order to volatilize a chunk of Luna.  [...]

If anything, not merely space technology, but all weapons technology, has been downgraded in its importance to military outcomes since 1980. In the current war, our high-tech warriors are fighting men who use videotapes, the internet, and improvised roadside bombs to kill targets of little or no military value. Had we placed a military base on the moon in 1960 or 1980, it would have had no effect on the surprising outcome of the Cold War, and it would be having no effect on the current Jihadist War.

And his assessment of the inability to stop in incoming missile can be called accurate, if you like. As of 2007 AD, we do not have a working missile defense. I am not convinced we might not have such a thing within the next eight years, but that depends more on political and less on technological factors.

My vote: A miss, but not a wild miss. There are some military applications of space.

Grade: C

Prediction Four:

RAH 1950: It is utterly impossible that the United States will start a "preventive war."  We will fight when attacked, either directly or in a territory we have guaranteed to defend.

Again, there is some interpretation here. Perhaps he means a pre-emptive atomic strike on Moscow, such as that which no less a figure than Winston Churchill was advocating, and which the Truman Administration, by ignoring Churchill's urging, condemned two generations of the West to live in daily expectation of the thermonuclear destruction  at the hands of psychotic Communist thugs. If so, the prediction is accurate: We did not launch any atomic wars in order to save ourselves from the threat of an enemy first strike.

RAH 1966: Since 1950 we have done so in several theaters and are doing so in Viet Nam as this is written.  "Preventive" or "pre-emptive" war seems as unlikely as ever, no matter who is in the White House.  Here is a new prediction: World War III (as a major, all-out war) will not take place at least until 1980 and could easily hold off until 2000.  [...]

Accurate. No major all-out war comparable with World War II has happened, and no such war is in contemplation. Indeed, not even a battlefield war is likely to take more than a month or two. Americans do not even remember and cannot understand what an all-out war is. We now routinely expect wars to be fought by small highly-trained cadres of volunteers. The idea of mobilizing the whole population and placing the economy on a wartime footing, complete with gas rationing, is not in the foreseeable future.

RAH 1980: I am forced to revise the 1950 prediction to this extent: It is no longer certain that we will fight to repel attack on territory we have guaranteed to defend; our behavior both with respect to Viet Nam and to Taiwan is a clear warning to our NATO allies.  The question is not whether we should ever have been in Viet Nam or whether we should ever have allied ourselves to the Nationalist Chinese.  I do not know of any professional military man who favored ever getting into conflict on the continent of Asia; such war for us is a logistic and strategic disaster.  But to break a commitment to an ally once it has been made is to destroy our credibility.

A miss. No one of Heinlein's generation, the Greatest Generation that fought World War Two, could have expected the nation to be so pro-Communist that we would pull out of Vietnam when we had effectively won the war and simply let all those innocent people die. Most people even now cannot understand the thinking, then or now, behind pre-emptive surrender to a despicably weaker and despicably evil foe.

My vote: a wild miss. We just started pre-emptive war in Iraq, and one of the reasons given for the war was that the danger of waiting until the enemy achieved a nuclear strike capability was too great to justify waiting for a casus belli.

Grade: D

Prediction Five:

RAH 1950: In fifteen years the housing shortage will be solved by a "breakthrough" into new technology which will make every house now standing as obsolete as privies.

RAH 1966: Here I fell flat on my face.  There has been no breakthrough in housing, nor is any now in prospect.  [...]

RAH 1980: I'm still flat on my face with my nose rubbed in the mud; the situation is worse than ever.  [...]

My vote: a clear miss. Housebuilding is not open to assembly-line principles.

Grade: D

Prediction Six:

RAH 1950: We'll all be getting a little hungry by and by.

Heinlein, while eerily accurate in some ways, had a blind spot when it came to overpopulation, which turned out to be a myth.  A clear miss.

(No 1966 postscript.)

RAH 1980: Not necessarily.  In 1950 I was too pessimistic concerning population.  Now I suspect that the controlling parameter is oil.  In modern agriculture oil is the prime factor -- as power for farm machinery (obviously) but also for insecticides and fertilizers.  Since our oil policies in Washington are about as boneheaded -- counterproductive -- as they can be, I have no way to guess how much food we can raise in 2000 A.D.  But no one in the United States should be hungry in 2000 A.D. -- unless we are conquered and occupied.

The problem of hunger in America is not a real problem. Deaths from being overweight is a greater problem among our "poor" (who are not at all poor by any historical standard). 

My Vote: a clear miss, and Heinlein reversed himself in 1980.

Grade: D

Prediction Seven:

RAH 1950: The cult of the phony in art will disappear.  So-called "modern art" will be discussed only by psychiatrists.

A clear miss. Modern art is uglier and more preposterous than ever.

(No 1966 postscript.)

RAH 1980: One may hope.  But art reflects culture and the world is even nuttier now than it was in 1950; these are the Crazy Years.  But, while "fine" art continues to look like the work of retarded monkeys, commercial art grows steadily better.

My vote: saying that commercial art looks better in the 1980s than in the 1970s is not a prediction.

Commercial art has declined in quality from 1950 to 2000, at least from a technical standpoint. Compare the draftsmanship of, for example, Alexander Raymond's FLASH GORDON with that of Peter Chung's AEON FLUX. Compare the draftsmanship of advertisements in 1950 with that of 2000. Art is phonier than ever.

My vote: A horrific miss.

Grade: D

Prediction Eight:

RAH 1950: Freud will be classed as a pre-scientific, intuitive pioneer and psychoanalysis will be replaced by a growing, changing "operational psychology" based on measurement and prediction.

A bold prediction by 1950 standards, when Freud was regarded as being true beyond dispute. However, operational psychology based on "measurement and prediction" has not come about. Some amazing advances have been made in neurochemistry, and drugs can cure or limit mental diseases that Freudian psychoanalysis cannot and could not cure, or even address.

(No 1966 postscript.)

RAH 1980: This prediction is beginning to come true.  Freud is no longer taken seriously by informed people.  More and more professional psychologists are skilled in appropriate mathematics; most of the younger ones understand inductive methodology and the nature of scientific confirmation and are trying hard to put rigor into their extremely difficult, still inchoate subject.  [...]

Nope. Heinlein is talking here about reducing psychology to a science with the rigor of physics; he is speculating that we are on the brink of studying man as if man were not possessed of that one thing that can never be reduced to analytical measurement: human consciousness. There is no hope, now or ever, of human beings reducing human beingness to numbers. Ridiculous.

My Vote: I consider Heinlein to have "nicked the edge" of the target by guessing that Freud would be out of fashion. As far as I know, "operational psychology" refers to an attempt to study psychology without reference to metaphysical or philosophical concepts, and it died with Skinner and Pavlov.  However, psychology is not my field: if anyone has better information on this, please feel free to comment.

Grade: C

Prediction Nine:

RAH 1950: Cancer, the common cold, and tooth decay will all be conquered; the revolutionary new problem in medical research will be to accomplish "regeneration," i.e., to enable a man to grow a new leg, rather than fit him with an artificial limb.

My vote: a clear miss. There is no cure for cancer, and we have new diseases, unheard-of in 1950, for which we have no cure and no clear prospect of a cure, not to mention the development (by the unintended consequences of Darwinian selection of human efforts to expunge them) of vaccine-resistant strains of common diseases.

RAH 1966: In the meantime spectacular progress has been made in organ transplants -- and the problem of regeneration is related to this one.  Biochemistry and genetics have made a spectacular breakthrough in "cracking the genetic code."  It is a tiny crack, however, with a long way to go before we will have the human chromosomes charted and still longer before we will be able to "tailor" human beings by gene manipulation.  The possibility is there -- but not by year 2000.  This is probably just as well.  If we aren't bright enough to build decent houses, are we bright enough to play God with the architecture of human beings?

This is wrong on several levels. Advances in organ transplants have been spectacular since 1950; but we did not have "a long way to go" to map the human genome. I supposed you could say it was not completed by 2000, but by 2003.

RAH 1980: I see no reason to change this prediction if you will let me elaborate (weasel) a little.  "The common cold" is a portmanteau expression for upper respiratory infections which appear to be caused by a very large number of different viruses.  [...]  Good news: Oncology (cancer), immunology, hematology and "the common cold" turn out to be strongly interrelated subjects: research in all these is moving fast -- and a real breakthrough in any one of them might mean a breakthrough in all.

I am not sure if this is a prediction at all, rather than a comment that one cure might effect several diseases. If it is a prediction, it predicts that the cure for cancer, found by 2000 AD was also found to stop the common cold.

My Vote: a clear miss, achoo, and Gesundheit. I think in my next SF book, I will simply say the common cold will continue not to be cured up until 802,701 A.D.

Grade: D.

Prediction Ten:

RAH 1950: By the end of this century mankind will have explored this solar system, and the first ship intended to reach the nearest star will be abuilding.

If you count robot probes, this one is accurate. We have landed on or made close passes by every body in the solar system, and discovered over 50 exosolar planets.

But he loses points on the "first ship intended to reach the nearest star." Nothing of the kind is even on the drawing board as of AD 2000.

RAH 1966: Our editor suggested that I had been too optimistic on this one -- but I stand by it. 

As above.  

RAH 1980: My dollar is still on the table at twenty years and counting.  Senator Proxmire can't live forever.  In the last 10½ years men have been to the Moon several times; much of the Solar system has been most thoroughly explored within the limits of "black box" technology and more will be visited before this year is out.  Ah, but not explored by men -- and the distances are so great.  Surely they are... by free-fall orbits, which is all that we have been using.  But [...] if your ship could boost at one-tenth gee [you could manage round-trips to Mars in 14½ days, or to Pluto in as many weeks].  Most of you who read this will live to see constant boost ships of 1/10 gee or better -- and will be able to afford vacations in space -- soon, soon!  [...]

A clear miss. There are no constant-boost ships in production or on the drawing board. Vacations in space are hardly a routine matter.

Near miss. We have explored the solar system, merely in in the way expected. But there is no constant boost ship, and no interstellar ship.

Grade: C.

Prediction Eleven:

RAH 1950: Your personal telephone will be small enough to carry in your handbag.  Your house telephone will record messages, answer simple inquiries, and transmit vision.

(No 1966 postscript.)

RAH 1980: This prediction is trivial and timid.  Most of it has already come true and the telephone system will hand you the rest on a custom basis if you'll pay for it.  In the year 2000, with modern telephones tied into home computers (as common then as flush toilets are today) you'll be able to have 3-dimensional holovision along with stereo speech.  Arthur C. Clarke says that this will do away with most personal contact in business.  I agree with all of Mr. Clarke's arguments and disagree with his conclusion [...].

Bull's-eye. My phone cannot answer simple queries, but when I call a business, I can be lead through a phone menu to have the system, without a human operator, do things as complex as bank transactions.

Grade: A

Prediction Twelve:

RAH 1950: Intelligent life will be found on Mars.

Sorry, no. This prediction was unsupported by what was known of Mars even in 1950.

RAH 1966: Predicting intelligent life on Mars looks pretty silly after those dismal photographs.  I shan't withdraw it until Mars has been thoroughly explored.  [...]

Sorry, no. We are now debating the possibility of bacterial life, maybe, at one time.

RAH 1980: The photographs made by the Martian landers of 1976 and the orbiting companions make the prediction of intelligent Martian life look even sillier.  But the new pictures and the new data make Mars even more mysterious.  I'm a diehard because I suspect that life is ubiquitous -- call that a religious opinion if you wish. 

Very well: it is a religious opinion, and one without proper theological grounding.

On of the most surprising things about the universe is that, if our currently accepted theories of the origin and evolution of life are not wildly inaccurate, the galaxy should be teaming with so many ancient millions of civilizations that the discovery of even one percent of them, a few ten thousands, would be inevitable. To have discovered no exosolar civilizations at all, no life at all, is wildly unlikely.

Well, the wildly unlikely seems to be happening. As for Heinlein's religion, his faith in life on Mars seems to be less theologically sound than the speculation of C.S. Lewis that the other intelligent life in creation is holding us in quarantine. Something weird is going on. Why are the stars silent?

Grade: D. I would grade lower if I could, because the sober science of Heinlein's day could not realistically support the notion of intelligent life on Mars. What? A civilization with no lights, no radio, no detectable energy use, no Great Wall of China, no Holland, no sign visible to your nearest neighbor that you are there?

Prediction Thirteen:

RAH 1950: A thousand miles an hour at a cent a mile will be commonplace; short hauls will be made in evacuated subways at extreme speeds.

RAH 1966: I must hedge number thirteen; the "cent" I meant was scaled by the 1950 dollar.  But our currency has been going through a long steady inflation, and no nation in history has ever gone as far as we have along this route without reaching the explosive phase of inflation.  Ten-dollar hamburgers?  Brother, we are headed for the hundred-dollar hamburger -- for the barter-only hamburger.  But this is only an inconvenience rather than a disaster as long as there is plenty of hamburger.

As of 2007, the hamburger I bought today cost $ 6.79, and that included drink and a side order of French Fries. Turning to my handy dandy inflation calculator, (http://www.westegg.com/inflation/) this comes to $0.83 in 1950 dollars. By my recollection a burger was four bits in the 1950's and a coke was a nickel, so this is an increase of about 28 cents increasing in price. On the one hand, the burger was twice the size and the coke was five times the size of the 1950's burger, and I got it delivered to my car window in about one minute.  On the other hand, the waitress did not speak English. All-in-all, I'd call it a wash. Heinlein is still spooked by Malthus, and daydreams (daynightmares?) of overpopulation and Soylent Green style Food Riots.

RAH 1980: About those subways: possible, even probable, by 2000 A.D.  But I see little chance that they will be financed until the dollar is stabilized -- a most painful process our government hates to tackle.

This is bogus. The problem is technological, having nothing to do with price stabilization. Delivering groceries overnight is worth a certain amount of money to the consumer, whose buying habits ultimately determine the costs and benefits of developing new systems of transport. Delivering groceries in half the time twelve hours rather than twenty-four, six rather than twelve, is not worth twice the price.

There are superhighspeed magnetic trains, but, no. This one is a miss, even adjusting for inflation and so on.

Grade: D

Prediction Fourteen:

RAH 1950: A major objective of applied physics will be to control gravity.

A clear miss. He is talking about generating gravity without mass. According to the standard model, and even nonstandard models, this is impossible.

RAH 1966: This prediction stands.  But today's physics is in a tremendous state of flux with new data piling up faster than it can be digested; it is anybody's guess as to where we are headed [...].  This is the Golden Age of physics -- and it's an anarchy.

Mr. Heinlein is blowing smoke here, I am afraid. In 1966, there was no prospect of a unified field theory, there was no even theoretical way to generate gravity artificially, no way, even in theory, to bend space or manipulate dimensions or generate gravitons, or even to discover if gravity is quantized, or … I am simply amazed he did not list this with time travel and matter transmission as a fantasy. It would require a major revolution, as big as Newton, as big as Einstein, to form a scientific model that would permit gravity to be anything other than a side-effect and a defining characteristic of mass. 

RAH 1980: I stand by the basic prediction.  There is so much work going on both by mathematical physicists and experimental physicists as to the nature of gravity that it seems inevitable that twenty years from now applied physicists will be trying to control it.  But note that I said "trying" -- succeeding may take a long time.  If and when they do succeed, a spin off is likely to be a spaceship that is in no way a rocket ship -- and the Galaxy is ours!  (Unless we meet that smarter, meaner, tougher race that kills us or enslaves us or eats us -- or all three.)

He would have been better advised to cry defeat on this one, as he had with his prediction about intelligent life on Mars.  Why not wish for an interialess drive or a perpetual motion machine while you are at it? 

Grade: D. I would grade lower if I could. This is an outrageous prediction, even given the state of physics in 1950, and I would take points away for his the hemming and hawing of 1966, and 1980. 

Prediction Fifteen:

RAH 1950: We will not achieve a "World State" in the predictable future.  Nevertheless, Communism will vanish from this planet.

Another prediction that is remarkably bold by 1950 thinking. Remember, in the immediate postwar period, it was universally held that only a United Nations, a successful League of Nations international police body, could prevent World War Three, which most people predicted (with some justice) to be no more than ten years off.

No one except Ludwig van Mises (HUMAN ACTION was published in 1949, one year before this prediction was made) held that communism was an unstable and unsustainable economic system. No one.

RAH 1966: I stand flatly behind prediction number fifteen.

In 1966, to predict the downfall of communism was not just bold, it was practically an act of supernatural prophecy. Only Ayn Rand (1957) cried that  Communism was evil as well as economically foolish. The other enemies of the Soviets thought they were evil and strong. In 1957 Sputnik was launched: every reasonable indicia indicated that the Soviets were ahead of us in technology, better organized, larger, and not crippled by the confusion and anarchy (so the economists of the time termed it) of the capitalist system.

RAH 1980: [...]  I shan't weasel as I am utterly dismayed by the political events of the past 15-20 years.  At least two thirds of the globe now calls itself Marxist.  Another large number of countries are military dictatorships.  Another large group (including the United States) are constitutional democratic republics but so tinged with socialism ("welfare state") that all of them are tottering on the brink of bankruptcy and collapse.  So far as I can see today the only thing that could cause the soi-disant Marxist countries to collapse in as little as twenty years would be for the United States to be conquered and occupied by the USSR [...].!

A prediction that is flatly and utterly wrong. Communism collapsed for the reasons outlined by Ludwig von Mises in 1949. Socialism is a system where economic calculation is impossible: without a market system, economization of resources, including human labor, is impossible. Socialism is a system that rations everything and wastes everything. Might as well throw your money into a bottomless well.

Grade: A, but downgraded to a B for his prediction of 1980, which was the reverse of the truth.

Prediction Sixteen:

RAH 1950: Increasing mobility will disenfranchise a majority of the population.  About 1990 a constitutional amendment will do away with state lines while retaining the semblance.

(No 1966 postscript.)

RAH 1980: I goofed.  I will be much surprised if either half of this double prediction comes to pass by 2000 -- at least in the form described and for the reasons I had in mind.  The franchise now extends to any warm body over eighteen and that franchise can be transferred to another state in less time than it takes the citizen to find housing in his/her new state.  Thus no constitutional amendment is needed.  But the state lines are fading year by year anyhow as power continues to move from the states to the Federal government and especially into the hands of non-elected bureaucrats.

My vote: He goofed. No one in 1950 could have predicted the sudden and astonishing seizure of power by non-elected feds: it was alien to the independent spirit that existed at that time. No one in 1950 really grasped that the constitution of government had changed, if not forever, at least for the next half century, with the election of Franklin Roosevelt.

Grade: D.

Prediction Seventeen:

RAH 1950: All aircraft will be controlled by a giant radar net run on a continent-wide basis by a multiple electronic "brain."

Oddly enough, this is one prediction that should have come true, and only the mind-boggling inefficiency of your government at work prevents it.

(No 1966 postscript.)

RAH 1980: This prediction still stands -- although it may be my wishful thinking.  Such a system was designed over thirty years ago; Congress wouldn't buy it.  [...]

My vote: He goofed. Clear miss. Air traffic control machines still use vacuum tubes, ferchrissake. There is only one manufacturer that makes them, and the only one they sell to is the federal government, whose buying and selling are controlled by the non-elected bureaucrats mentioned in the prediction above.

Grade: D, but we should upgrade it to a C because the folly and waste of the federal government in preventing this obvious upgrade to the air traffic system is unimaginable. No one, not even Cassandra herself, could have foreseen this.

Prediction Eighteen:

RAH 1950: Fish and yeast will become our principle sources of proteins.  Beef will be a luxury; lamb and mutton will disappear.

Not only is this not a bold prediction, it falls within the commonly accepting thinking, the myths current in the late fifties. Heinlein is a little ahead of fashion for saying it in 1950. It is the old, old error of Malthus, that even Malthus did not believe in the second printing of his famous essay.

RAH 1966: I'll hedge number eighteen just a little.  Hunger is not now a problem in the USA, and need not be in the year 2000 -- but hunger is a world problem and would at once become an acute problem for us if we were conquered... a distinct possibility by 2000.  Between our present status and that of subjugation lies a whole spectrum of political and economic possible shapes to the future under which we would share the worldwide hunger to a greater or lesser extent.  And the problem grows.  We can expect to have to feed around half a billion Americans circa year 2000 -- our present huge surpluses would then represent acute shortages even if we never shipped a ton of wheat to India.

I am not sure I can call someone predicting "a whole spectrum of political and economic possible shapes" a real prediction. Worldwide hunger was shrinking at the time this was written, to the best of my knowledge, and is at an all-time low. Isn't India a net exporter of wheat these days? Someone correct me if I am wrong.

RAH 1980: It would now appear that the USA population in 2000 A.D. will be about 270,000,000 instead of 500,000,000.  I have been collecting clippings on demography for forty years; all that the projections have in common is that all of them are wrong.  Even that figure of 270,000,000 may be too high; today the only reason our population continues to increase is that we oldsters are living longer; our current birthrate is not sufficient even to replace the parent generation.

My vote: a near miss. The opposite prediction, that world hunger will be solved by Star Trek style utopian niceness, would be absurd. But the problem with world hunger is a problem of politics, not a problem of overpopulation or limitations of resources or techniques. India, as of 2000 AD suffered no famines, and even China, now that her rulers allow for private farming, suffers no famines. All famines from 1950 to 2000, the time period covered by the prognostication, were caused by socialism.

Grade: C, if we grade generously. We still have some world hunger.

Prediction Nineteen

RAH 1950: Mankind will not destroy itself, nor will "civilization" be destroyed.

Since scholars and intellectuals as august as A.J. Toynbee and Oswald Spengler  were predicting the second fall of Rome for all Western civilization, not to mention science fiction routinely predicting global atomic Armageddon, to make this prediction took quite of bit of guts. You might argue that, if it proved false, no one would be around to debate the issue, but there were survivors of the Fall of the Western Roman empire. 

RAH 1966: I stand by prediction number nineteen.

Since the West as actually in a weaker position confronting nuclear-armed communism, and since scholars and intellectuals, by 1966, were also discussing the possibility of megadeath via ecological or overpopulation catastrophe, this prediction was even bolder than it had been in the 1950's.

For comparison, note that CANTICLE FOR LEIBOWITZ, which popularized the image of post-nuclear world holocaust, was published in 1959; Rachel Carson published SILENT SPRING in 1962; Paul Erlich published THE POPULATION BOMB in 1968, propagandizing the concept of "overpopulation" so well that it still vexes and frightens intellectuals today, even though we are currently suffering from underpopulation (which was one of the causes of the decline and fall of the Roman Empire, by the way).

RAH 1980: I will stand by prediction number nineteen.  There will be wars and we will be in some of them -- and some may involve atomic weapons.  But there will not be that all-destroying nuclear holocaust that forms the background of so many S.F. stories.  There are three reasons for this: The United States, the Soviet Union, and the People's Republic of China.  Why?  Because the three strongest countries in the world (while mutually detesting each the other two) have nothing to gain and everything to lose in an all-out swapping of H-bombs.  Because Kremlin bosses are not idiots and neither are those in Peking.  If another country -- say Israel, India or the South African Republic -- gets desperate and tosses an A- or H-bomb, that country is likely to receive three phone calls simultaneously, one from each of the Big Three: "You have exactly three minutes to back down.  Then we destroy you."  After World War II I never expected that our safety would ever depend on a massive split in Communist International -- but that is exactly what has happened.

This is a bold prediction, considering that Jimmy Carter was president from 1977 to 1981, and during his term the Cold War was given up for lost. Mutually Assured Destruction was regarded as the most hopeful scenario as the West declined, either slowly to fall to the inevitable victory of communism, or rapidly but in utter futility to destroy itself in a thermonuclear paroxysm resisting the inevitable victory communism.

My Vote: Accurate. None of the nuclear powers, not even Pakistan or India, used a nuclear weapon in war as of 2000 AD, which is the time limit of the prediction.

Grade: A. Not only did we not destroy ourselves, we did not even come close.

Prediction Twenty: The Negative Predictions

RAH 1950: Things we won't get soon, if ever:

  1. Travel through time.
  2. Travel faster than the speed of light.
  3. "Radio" transmission of matter.
  4. Manlike robots with manlike reactions.
  5. Laboratory creation of life.
  6. Real understanding of what "thought" is and how it is related to matter.
  7. Scientific proof of personal survival after death.
  8. Nor a permanent end to war.  (I don't like that prediction any better than you do.)

RAH 1966: I see no reason to change any of the negative predictions which follow the numbered affirmative ones.  They are all conceivably possible; they are all wildly unlikely by year 2000.  Some of them are debatable if the terms are defined to suit the affirmative side -- definitions of "life" and "manlike," for example.  Let it stand that I am not talking about an amino acid in one case, or a machine that plays chess in the other.

Since he qualifies number "e" to exclude laboratory creation of amino acids, he is on firm ground here. We are no where near the ability to create a new species, much less create new life from nonlife. As of 2000, it is still cutting-edge technology to clone a sheep. No one has created a flying unicorn from scratch.

RAH 1980: I see no point in saying more.

All these are spot-on, and not very bold predictions. Those things that science fiction writers invent for the sake of drama, but which have no basis in physics, are easy to list, and he has done so.

The only one on the list that is even arguable (I will not argue it, but the argument could be made) oddly enough, is number "g." There have been a sufficient number of independent studies of people who have "died" on the operating table, or come close to it, and shown no signs of life or brain activity, and woken up, and spoken about the things they saw and were told while officially dead, and their accounts contain enough parallels and similarities, that to explain the matter without admitting the possibility of life after death strains the imagination, and requires farfetched ad hoc coincidences.

The other one where he is arguably wrong is h. Remember, we are only dealing with the period between 1950-2000. If we define war to mean major mobilization of the entire population, a full-scale nuclear exchange, a total war, the answer is yes: World War III never happened. A major war of that kind is not in contemplation until and unless a major disaster or corruption from within dislodges the United States from her unique global supremacy.

Grade: A, but downgraded to a B because these predictions were so easy to make. "No time travel by AD 2000" is not really a hard prediction. I also predict no genii from a lamp will turn the South Pole into an Italian Ice and feed it to the Midgard Serpent.

FINAL SCORE !

 

  1. b
  2. a
  3. c
  4. d
  5. d
  6. d
  7. d
  8. c
  9. d
  10. c
  11. a
  12. f
  13. d
  14. f
  15. b
  16. d
  17. c
  18. c
  19. a
  20. b

As a professional predictor of the future, Mr. Heinlein is a pretty darn good science fiction writer. I doubt anyone else could have done better.





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[info]agrumer
2007-10-26 11:56 pm UTC (link)
I will draw the readers attention, for example, to a case in Maine were a public school was giving an eleven-year-old girl contraceptives, on the theory that statutory rape is permissible if the girl is having "safe sex."

One of my habits is that when I read something weird and outrageous on a blog, I do a little research to get other sources on the matter. In this case, as far as I can figure, there's no actual eleven-year-old girl in Maine who has actually been given contraceptives by her public school. The blogger you linked to did not, herself, link to a source, which is always a bad sign. Her source is FoxNews, a worse sign.

What actually happened, as far as I can tell, is that a school board in Maine approved a plan to make birth control available in middle schools, which include students as young as 11.

No one except Ludwig van Mises (HUMAN ACTION was published in 1949, one year before this prediction was made) held that communism was an unstable and unsustainable economic system. No one.

You've forgotten about Friedrich Hayek. The Road to Serfdom was published in 1944.

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to be pedantic
[info]iceberg18
2007-10-28 04:21 am UTC (link)
Actually, JCW is correct, but for a different reason; Mises first penned an article in 1920 titled Economic Calculation in the Socialist Commonwealth which in 1922 was incorporated into a fully developed thesis in his publication of Socialism: An Economic and Sociological Analysis. Incidentally, it was that book which converted a socialist by the name of Friedrich August von Hayek to the school of Austrian economics.

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Re: to be pedantic
[info]agrumer
2007-10-28 09:20 am UTC (link)
Wait, how does that make John's claim (that van Mises was the only person in 1950 to believe that centralized economic planning was inherently unworkable) correct? If anything, the fact that Mises's ideas were in circulation as early as 1920 implies that they might have already started to attract adherents other than himself by 1950.

Hunting around on the net, I see that the Austrian School of economics actually dates back to the late 19th century. I also see a few other economists who were, or might have been, skeptical towards central planning in or around 1950: Murray Rothbard, George Stigler, Milton Friedman.

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Re: to be pedantic
[info]iceberg18
2007-10-28 01:43 pm UTC (link)
Well let me take that back then. There were others before Mises whom argued that socialism was untenable for other reasons, whether because altruism is incompatible with society, or because socialism faces incentive problems, et. al. but nobody prior to Mises argued that socialism was impossible because a command economy faces insurmountable calculation problems, and try as they best could, no group of social scientists, no matter the amount of computational resources at their service could possibly allocate resources within society to the extent that it would reflect the preferences of each of the [non-]market participants. This is a problem stemming from the burden of nescience, because Mises in his Austrian methodology doesn't allow for intersubjective comparisons of utility, and any historical information you can gather from revealed preferences is irrelevant to planning since preferences are ephemeral and only valid for that particular time and place.

Later Hayek came up with his own variation of this calculation problem, that prices themselves serve as information about the general market preferences, and that without them, planners could not coordinate production of goods. It was this understanding of the problem which led the central planners to taking price information from Sears catalogs, to determine in a roundabout and grossly inaccurate way, how they should plan their command economies. Oskar Lange, once a fellow traveler of the Austrian school fell into this trap and staked his position on the socialist side, but by the 1950's, most intellectuals and social scientists had to admit that Mises was essentially correct, although many still held notions why reality and logic were to be ignored in favor of stifling command economies.

Leonard Read of the FEE wrote a book around that time called "I, Pencil" which used Hayek's paradigm to explain why even to make the simplest writing tool requires the coordination of hundreds of thousands of people and that prices is what makes it possible, showing both the beauty of a spontaneous market economy coming together to bring you the most mundane objects, and that socialism is incompatible with even the simplest expression of material wealth. Milton Friedman later did a TV segment on this book which you can find on YouTube or Google Video.

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Re: to be pedantic
[info]agrumer
2007-10-29 05:26 am UTC (link)
The actual book is also online.

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Hmmm....
[info]carbonelle
2007-11-01 03:12 am UTC (link)
as far as I can tell, is that a school board in Maine approved a plan to make birth control available in middle schools, which include students as young as 11.

So... when said plan goes into effect and the public schools (not school singular, but all the middle schools under the aegis of that Maine school board) will Fox News, the blogger and John all be correct retroactively?

It seems to me that they are understating the case: an individual school might, under the hand of a particular activist principal, do something outrageous. But that a school board, of elected officials, feel secure enough in the public sentiment supporting the outrage... Yoiks.

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(Anonymous)
2007-11-01 03:39 pm UTC (link)
But anybody having sex with a middle-schooler is committing statutory rape. Even his or her little friends of the same age. Middle-school kids can't legally give consent, unless they've been held back a loooooooooong time.

So giving middle-school kids birth control is indeed enabling statutory rape, unless said kids plan to set up a store and sell their free birth control to people over the age of consent. (Which would be pure profit, but is as unlikely to happen as middle-school kids buying cigs to sell to their parents.)

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[info]fractallaw
2007-10-27 12:39 am UTC (link)
In prediction 20 E isn't that far off. There are several researchers who've made considerable progress on that one lately, most recently Craig Venter. I must admit that coming up with a decent definition for artificial life is somewhat difficult, however.

As a side note, 'Democrat Party'? I know the usage goes much farther back than the current administration, but really Mr. Wright.

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[info]bdunbar
2007-10-27 01:29 am UTC (link)
My vote: a clear miss. Housebuilding is not open to assembly-line principles.

Hmm. When my wife and I were looking into buying a house in Texas we investigated manufactured housing. The house is built in a factory, shipped to the site in boxes and assembled. It seemed reasonable, the models were attractive and the price attractive.

We did not, in the end, go with this option. While we were looking for a lot we liked we found an already built house that we liked and more land than we expected. But it was not for not liking the manufactured housing idea.

It seems like a good idea - what am I missing?

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[info]randallsquared
2007-10-27 02:40 am UTC (link)
Building codes.

There are states and localities in which it is possible to get an large house by the standards of 1950 for less than 20K 2007 dollars. However, they're mostly in the deep South. Many, many states and localities limit or prohibit so called "mobile homes" for any number of alarmist reasons, but mostly for the actual reason that a drop in housing costs mean a drop in housing prices, and having a low-cost home next to yours lowers the market value of the one you own, too.

So there's a powerful incentive to support banning any housing construction method that makes homes "too" cheap. In places where manufactured housing is permitted, it is permitted either because they've added enough dross to bring up the costs to near stick-built houses, or because housing costs were low enough due to poverty that low-cost housing wasn't such a threat to existing homeowners' equity.

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[info]bdunbar
2007-10-27 03:02 pm UTC (link)
So it's a social thing not a problem with engineering.

Which doesn't mean that we'll see manufactured housing anytime soon - I'm not such a nerd that I don't know that you can't engineer around a social block.

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[info]dirigibletrance
2007-10-27 06:20 pm UTC (link)
An economic thing, rather than a social thing, but yes.

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[info]missjeanevil
2007-10-27 06:06 am UTC (link)
Mortgages. If you wish to buy a manufactured home, you may have to go through a separate mortgage company - and at a higher percentage rate.

Also, I think that Mr. Heinlein may have been thinking of manufactured homes like the Dymaxion House that was designed to use the materials and manufacturing technology of WWII aircrafts. These non-flying saucer houses were inexpensive, designed to be taken apart and reassembled when the owners moved, and had truly futuristic amenities: rotating shelves in closets and cupboards, two compact bathrooms, cisterns for rainwater irrigation of gardens, sliding walls to maximize ventilation, etc.

The Henry Ford Museum in Dearborn, MI has an excellent example of one of them that was lived in. Take a look, if you're interested:

http://www.hfmgv.org/dymaxion/

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[info]bdunbar
2007-10-27 03:07 pm UTC (link)
Thanks! I'd forgotten about Dymaxion homes.

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[info]agrumer
2007-10-27 08:14 pm UTC (link)
Heinlein may also have been thinking about the Eames House, built in 1949 out of pre-fab parts from a catalog.

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[info]mrmandias
2007-10-30 02:26 pm UTC (link)
In the little town where I grew up several people had homes that they ordered from the Sears catalog in the early part of the century. Sears shipped out the parts and instructions on how to put them together. They are quite small.

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[info]flaminphonebook
2007-10-27 02:38 am UTC (link)
If my memory serves me right, Heinlein prefaced this article, at least in Expanded Universe, with a disclaimer on the folly of trying to predict the future. And really, his predictions fall on something of a normal curve: a few bulls-eyes (fall of Communism, pocket phones), a few Yeah, Kindas (Freud, extrasolar exploration), a few No, Not Reallys (housing, hunger), and a few What Were You Smokings (intelligence on Mars). I bet if I wrote now I could match his score for 2057.

Indeed, part of the problem with these is that from where I sit, there was far more change in the material side of people's lives from 1900 to 1950 than there was from 1950-2000. In the first interval, your home would have gained indoor plumbing, a gas stove, a radio, maybe a TV if you were advanced, maybe electric light if you lagged, a telephone, a refrigerator/freezer, a washer/dryer (I feel like Johnny Olsen here), and a car in the garage. To get around you gained the airplane and the diesel train. War changed from the rifle to the a-bomb, and if you give me two years grace, the h-bomb.

In the latter half of the century, we did get improvements in all of those, but the only real new stuff are the microwave, the CD/DVD player, and the computer with Internet access. Transportation hasn't changed, nor have the weapons of war much.

The changes in the latter half were more cultural, as we adapted to the material changes of the former half. That's what Heinlein failed to see--that we were not willing to engage in the unchecked material alteration of life.

Heinlein's other problem was that as much as he tried to avoid it, he was biased by his own perspective as a forward-thinking progressive. People do not like progress for progress's sake. Flip through any home furniture catalogue. The items that make the cover are the ones that emphasize warmth and home, not durability and efficiency. Stainless steel and plastic are not as popular as wood and stone. Heinlein didn't grok that. Neither do I.

It's for this same reason that he predicted, more in his novels than in this, the rise of the sort of neo-Ubermensch--the person who has solved all the silly problems of human history by ignoring them and being a full iconoclast. E.g., Kettle Belly Baldwin, Jubal Harshaw, Lazarus Long, Bernardo de la Paz. I really think he believed that the best and brightest would just stop caring about humanity-as-existed and would start caring about humanity-potential.

Such people do exist, of course. I'm one. It's just that they're far more likely to be blogging from their parents'* basement (not me, I work) than to be running a secret revolutionary sect or maintaining a hermitage with a harem of like-minded semi-spouses.

I have hope (someone has to) that someday when the population gets large enough and the technology advanced enough, a proper, self-sustaining Heinlein/Rand style libertarian subculture will emerge. I have surety that if it does, it will be challenged violently by everyone else.

If and when that happens, then and only then will the social predictions (2, 5, 7, 8, 16) in this article have a chance of coming true.


*Statistical trends say that apostrophe should go one place to the left, but I'll leave it as is.

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[info]missjeanevil
2007-10-27 06:18 am UTC (link)
I can see why violence might be the result if one solves problems by labeling them "silly" and ignoring them. Especially if those silly human problems involve unpaid debts. ;>

Seriously, though, there is no surety that everyone will violently challenge an odd duck. When a person (or even a group) is too out of synch with the rest of society, it could just be patronized as an eccentric or shunned as an outcast.

However, literature about nonviolent ignoring isn't as interesting as violent challenges.

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[info]flaminphonebook
2007-10-27 12:22 pm UTC (link)
"I can see why violence might be the result if one solves problems by labeling them 'silly' and ignoring them. Especially if those silly human problems involve unpaid debts. ;>"

Heh. That's an individual problem. I'm talking about problems in general like how to get money in the first place.

"Seriously, though, there is no surety that everyone will violently challenge an odd duck. When a person (or even a group) is too out of synch with the rest of society, it could just be patronized as an eccentric or shunned as an outcast."

True, unless the group achieves successes that the rest of society has not. If a splinter group managed to cure the diseases of prediction 9, or change the relations between the sexes as in prediction 2 (which some won't consider a success), I don't think they would be left alone. Case in point: there are already discussions among the lawmakers about the private space exploration industry as to how to ensure that if a permanant off-world colony is established, it remains tethered to society, following its laws and paying its taxes.

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the big 'C'
[info]tjic
2007-10-27 02:49 am UTC (link)

a clear miss. There is no cure for cancer


I beg to differ. There are many cures for cancer.

A few years back, my mother was cured of breast cancer.

A bit after that, I took one of my dogs to a a privately run business that specializes in curing animals of cancer!

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Re: the big 'C'
[info]zac_wight
2007-10-27 06:39 am UTC (link)
The "cure" can be the cause of death for the patient before the patient would have succumbed to the cancer. And there are other side effects that are unpleasant.

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Re: the big 'C'
(Anonymous)
2007-10-28 08:35 pm UTC (link)
A relative of mine was fully cured of leukemia. And the treatment, which in the early 1990s involved a painful course of chemotherapy and a lengthy hospital stay, is now available in easy pill form on an outpatient basis.

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[info]kokorognosis
2007-10-27 04:54 am UTC (link)
Bull's-eye. My phone cannot answer simple queries, but when I call a business, I can be lead through a phone menu to have the system, without a human operator, do things as complex as bank transactions.

Your house phone cannot, but try sending a text message to 46645 (GOOGL) with a message text like, "Cheesecake Factory, Columbus, Oh" and you'll get a text message back with the phone number. Or weather, or several text messages worth of movie theater listings.

I <3 Google SMS.

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Maybe they can
(Anonymous)
2007-10-27 03:42 pm UTC (link)
nor can current observers understand the weird anti-Nuke cult which influences politics and industry.


of course we can. Modern America has stopped making rational intellectual jugdments, instead we make emotional, viscarl reactions. Think about it, nuke = bomb, radiation poising = bad.
Too many people are not informed on important issues (those who misunderstand global warming*), don't think (Saddam has WMDs that means we're all going to die!!!!!), or don't care (way too many americans don't vote)**

*A heat wave! global warming must be real!

**Sad but here's the humorous take on this problem http://www.theonion.com/content/node/29523

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famine - socialism?
[info]oscillon
2007-10-27 03:54 pm UTC (link)
"All famines from 1950 to 2000, the time period covered by the prognostication, were caused by socialism."

If I remember correctly, Ethiopia was not communist until after the 73 famine. Draught was the cause. The 90's Sudan famine was not caused by socialism but by war. I don't think Uganda's problems in the early 80's were caused by socialism.

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Re: famine - socialism?
[info]baduin
2007-10-28 01:32 pm UTC (link)
See this
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ethiopian_famine
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1984_-_1985_famine_in_Ethiopia
http://countrystudies.us/ethiopia/46.htm

Ethiopia was essentially a pre-industrial country, with primitive agriculture, and was always vulnerable to famines. On the other hand, the famine of 1984 was incomparably worse, and was caused by the communist regime.

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Re: famine - socialism?
[info]oscillon
2007-10-29 06:53 pm UTC (link)
Draught, subsistence (harvest to harvest) farming, and bad economics all have contributed to famine. The statement that "all" famines since 1950 have been caused by socialism is not accurate.

Even looking at North Korea is deceiving. Yes, they are "communist", but the reason they can't feed thier people is more due to the fact that they are totally isolated from the world economy and spend 25% of thier tiny gdp on the military. If you waved a majic wand and made them capitalists but left the other factors the same, they would still be unable to function.

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Re: famine - socialism?
(Anonymous)
2007-11-01 03:42 pm UTC (link)
I love you guys. But it's spelled "drought".

"Draught" is a beer, or a breeze where it shouldn't be.

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Bureacracy After FDR
(Anonymous)
2007-10-28 08:47 pm UTC (link)
"No one in 1950 could have predicted the sudden and astonishing seizure of power by non-elected feds: it was alien to the independent spirit that existed at that time. No one in 1950 really grasped that the constitution of government had changed, if not forever, at least for the next half century, with the election of Franklin Roosevelt."

I'd like to learn more about this seizure of power by non-elected federal bureacrats, and the change in attitude that eliminated the independent spirit. Can anyone recommend a book that covers these topics in detail? Is this a reference to the decline of states' rights (hastened largely by the civil rights movement) or is there more to it?

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Re: Bureacracy After FDR
[info]johncwright
2007-10-29 01:46 pm UTC (link)
I am afraid someone wiser than I will have to answer the question. My knowledge comes through reading law cases, which is a course I can hardly recommend for a casual reader: there is a sharp and sudden drop in adherence to common law principles of free contract and right to private property after the New Deal court.

Administrative Law (so-called: this is law enacted by un-elected bureaucrats at their own pleasure and discretion) has practically nothing to study before the New Deal.

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Number Eight Is Correct
(Anonymous)
2007-10-28 09:09 pm UTC (link)
Heinlein's prediction number eight was in fact entirely accurate. Freud today is regarded as a brilliant but hopelessly obsolete pioneer. Most details of Freudian psychology have been discredited and no longer form the mainstream basis of psychological theory or practice as they did in the 1950s.

The field of psychology moves towards a more scientific foundation, with more and better clinical evidence and statistical sophistication. A wholesale overhaul of the field brought about a greater emphasis on more efficacious, more efficient, and less expensive therapeutic methods (and here I'm referring to more than medications).

That is exactly what Heinlein predicted. To say that Heinlein predicted "human beings reducing human beingness to numbers" is to put words in his mouth. There is nothing in his prediction that states or even implies that.

Of course, in 2100 we may look back at today's psychological theories and practices as nothing more than crude voodoo, but that's a different discussion.

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(Anonymous)
2007-10-29 04:05 am UTC (link)
>No one except Ludwig van Mises (HUMAN ACTION was published in 1949, one year before this prediction was made) held that communism was an unstable and unsustainable economic system. No one.

Doc Smith, though admittedly in the Lensman series it's so far in the background that nobody even remembers the details any longer ("just another form of tyranny that didn't work out"), but SECOND-STAGE LENSMAN has a very nice analysis of why regimes that don't believe in free thought are going to have severe difficulties in a war determined by engineering and scientific prowess among the rank-and-file.


Tony Zbaraschuk

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Laboratory creation of life.
[info]oscillon
2007-10-29 07:18 pm UTC (link)
http://www.guardian.co.uk/science/2007/oct/06/genetics.climatechange
Craig Ventner's new project.

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[info]annafirtree
2007-10-30 08:55 pm UTC (link)
On prediction 13: "RAH 1950: A thousand miles an hour at a cent a mile will be commonplace; short hauls will be made in evacuated subways at extreme speeds."

I know of no evacuated subways. But on the other hand, you can fly from Minneapolis to Buffalo (950 miles) at about half that speed. Delta airlines quotes that trip at $242 ($262.80 after taxes), which comes out to be about 25 cents a mile; in 1950 dollars that's equivalent to 3 cents a mile.

So... half the speed for three times the price that he predicted. But his order of magnitudes is about right (if you grant him inflation), so I'd probably have given him a C for that, or at the very least, a D+.

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Depends on how you read him
[info]johncwright
2007-10-30 09:33 pm UTC (link)
I thought he was talking about long-distance freight hauling on a futuristic super-train.

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You can cross off one of the "negatives" as well
[info]carbonelle
2007-11-01 03:15 am UTC (link)
"Radio transmission of matter"

What does it boil down to, after all, but the digitizing of physical objects and their rematerialization half-way 'round the world.

Fax machines.
Google documents
Flickr.
Etc. etc. etc...

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Re: You can cross off one of the "negatives" as well
[info]johncwright
2007-11-01 05:49 pm UTC (link)
Um... no. A fax machine is not even close to the radio transmission of matter. We are talking about a Star Trek style "Transporter" machine, not a dandified teletype. They had teletype in the 1950's. Being able to send color photos through a teletype was science fiction in 1950, but that was not what was being called impossible. If you can call a fax machine "radio transmission of matter" then I can with equal justice call a photo of a star wobble from the Hubble Telescope a successful manned landing on the planet of another solar system.

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[info]commonreader
2008-08-07 03:13 am UTC (link)
Prediction 7 wasn't that far off. Look at the market - the price of 20th century trash is falling precipitously, while 19th century academic painting that only a few years ago was purchasable by ordinary people (the story of Andrew Lloyd Webber's attempted purchase of Flaming June is a good example) is now commanding the prices it deserves. There are thriving ateliers worldwide teaching the classical techniques. The only reason "modern art" is still around is state subsidies.

Commercial illustration is never going to return to a pre-cheap photography standard.

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