John C. Wright ([info]johncwright) wrote,
@ 2009-06-30 11:29:00
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Why I am not a Libertarian
If it may be permitted, I would like here to quote in full an article which argues against the legalization and the award of social sanction of that form of mental self-mutilation known as recreational drug use, and does so with more authority than I command (since the author speaks from personal experience--note particularly his anecdote about building a road in Africa, when the construction workers were given free booze) . 

The article is from Front Page magazine, and the author is the skeptical doctor  Anthony Daniels, writing as Theodore Dalrymple

Don’t Legalize Drugs
Theodore Dalrymple

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here is a progression in the minds of men: first the unthinkable becomes thinkable, and then it becomes an orthodoxy whose truth seems so obvious that no one remembers that anyone ever thought differently. This is just what is happening with the idea of legalizing drugs: it has reached the stage when with the idea of legalizing drugs: it has reached the stage when millions of thinking men are agreed that allowing people to take whatever they like is the obvious, indeed only, solution to the social problems that arise from the consumption of drugs.

Man’s desire to take mind-altering substances is as old as society itself—as are attempts to regulate their consumption. If intoxication in one form or another is inevitable, then so is customary or legal restraint upon that intoxication. But no society until our own has had to contend with the ready availability of so many different mind-altering drugs, combined with a citizenry jealous of its right to pursue its own pleasures in its own way.

The arguments in favor of legalizing the use of all narcotic and stimulant drugs are twofold: philosophical and pragmatic. Neither argument is negligible, but both are mistaken, I believe, and both miss the point.

The philosophic argument is that, in a free society, adults should be permitted to do whatever they please, always provided that they are prepared to take the consequences of their own choices and that they cause no direct harm to others. The locus classicus for this point of view is John Stuart Mill’s famous essay On Liberty: “The only purpose for which power can be rightfully exercised over any member of the community, against his will, is to prevent harm to others,” Mill wrote. “His own good, either physical or moral, is not a sufficient warrant.” This radical individualism allows society no part whatever in shaping, determining, or enforcing a moral code: in short, we have nothing in common but our contractual agreement not to interfere with one another as we go about seeking our private pleasures.

In practice, of course, it is exceedingly difficult to make people take all the consequences of their own actions—as they must, if Mill’s great principle is to serve as a philosophical guide to policy. Addiction to, or regular use of, most currently prohibited drugs cannot affect only the person who takes them—and not his spouse, children, neighbors, or employers. No man, except possibly a hermit, is an island; and so it is virtually impossible for Mill’s principle to apply to any human action whatever, let alone shooting up heroin or smoking crack. Such a principle is virtually useless in determining what should or should not be permitted.

Perhaps we ought not be too harsh on Mill’s principle: it’s not clear that anyone has ever thought of a better one. But that is precisely the point. Human affairs cannot be decided by an appeal to an infallible rule, expressible in a few words, whose simple application can decide all cases, including whether drugs should be freely available to the entire adult population. Philosophical fundamentalism is not preferable to the religious variety; and because the desiderata of human life are many, and often in conflict with one another, mere philosophical inconsistency in policy—such as permitting the consumption of alcohol while outlawing cocaine—is not a sufficient argument against that policy. We all value freedom, and we all value order; sometimes we sacrifice freedom for order, and sometimes order for freedom. But once a prohibition has been removed, it is hard to restore, even when the newfound freedom proves to have been ill-conceived and socially disastrous.

Even Mill came to see the limitations of his own principle as a guide for policy and to deny that all pleasures were of equal significance for human existence. It was better, he said, to be Socrates discontented than a fool satisfied. Mill acknowledged that some goals were intrinsically worthier of pursuit than others.

This being the case, not all freedoms are equal, and neither are all limitations of freedom: some are serious and some trivial. The freedom we cherish—or should cherish—is not merely that of satisfying our appetites, whatever they happen to be. We are not Dickensian Harold Skimpoles, exclaiming in protest that “Even the butterflies are free!” We are not children who chafe at restrictions because they are restrictions. And we even recognize the apparent paradox that some limitations to our freedoms have the consequence of making us freer overall. The freest man is not the one who slavishly follows his appetites and desires throughout his life—as all too many of my patients have discovered to their cost.

We are prepared to accept limitations to our freedoms for many reasons, not just that of public order. Take an extreme hypothetical case: public exhibitions of necrophilia are quite rightly not permitted, though on Mill’s principle they should be. A corpse has no interests and cannot be harmed, because it is no longer a person; and no member of the public is harmed if he has agreed to attend such an exhibition.
Our resolve to prohibit such exhibitions would not be altered if we discovered that millions of people wished to attend them or even if we discovered that millions already were attending them illicitly. Our objection is not based upon pragmatic considerations or upon a head count: it is based upon the wrongness of the would-be exhibitions themselves. The fact that the prohibition represents a genuine restriction of our freedom is of no account.

It might be argued that the freedom to choose among a variety of intoxicating substances is a much more important freedom and that millions of people have derived innocent fun from taking stimulants and narcotics. But the consumption of drugs has the effect of reducing men’s freedom by circumscribing the range of their interests. It impairs their ability to pursue more important human aims, such as raising a family and fulfilling civic obligations. Very often it impairs their ability to pursue gainful employment and promotes parasitism. Moreover, far from being expanders of consciousness, most drugs severely limit it. One of the most striking characteristics of drug takers is their intense and tedious self-absorption; and their journeys into inner space are generally forays into inner vacuums. Drug taking is a lazy man’s way of pursuing happiness and wisdom, and the shortcut turns out to be the deadest of dead ends. We lose remarkably little by not being permitted to take drugs.

The idea that freedom is merely the ability to act upon one’s whims is surely very thin and hardly begins to capture the complexities of human existence; a man whose appetite is his law strikes us not as liberated but enslaved. And when such a narrowly conceived freedom is made the touchstone of public policy, a dissolution of society is bound to follow. No culture that makes publicly sanctioned self-indulgence its highest good can long survive: a radical egotism is bound to ensue, in which any limitations upon personal behavior are experienced as infringements of basic rights. Distinctions between the important and the trivial, between the freedom to criticize received ideas and the freedom to take LSD, are precisely the standards that keep societies from barbarism.

So the legalization of drugs cannot be supported by philosophical principle. But if the pragmatic argument in favor of legalization were strong enough, it might overwhelm other objections. It is upon this argument that proponents of legalization rest the larger part of their case.
The argument is that the overwhelming majority of the harm done to society by the consumption of currently illicit drugs is caused not by their pharmacological properties but by their prohibition and the resultant criminal activity that prohibition always calls into being. Simple reflection tells us that a supply invariably grows up to meet a demand; and when the demand is widespread, suppression is useless. Indeed, it is harmful, since—by raising the price of the commodity in question—it raises the profits of middlemen, which gives them an even more powerful incentive to stimulate demand further. The vast profits to be made from cocaine and heroin—which, were it not for their illegality, would be cheap and easily affordable even by the poorest in affluent societies—exert a deeply corrupting effect on producers, distributors, consumers, and law enforcers alike. Besides, it is well known that illegality in itself has attractions for youth already inclined to disaffection. Even many of the harmful physical effects of illicit drugs stem from their illegal status: for example, fluctuations in the purity of heroin bought on the street are responsible for many of the deaths by overdose. If the sale and consumption of such drugs were legalized, consumers would know how much they were taking and thus avoid overdoses.

Moreover, since society already permits the use of some mind-altering substances known to be both addictive and harmful, such as alcohol and nicotine, in prohibiting others it appears hypocritical, arbitrary, and dictatorial. Its hypocrisy, as well as its patent failure to enforce its prohibitions successfully, leads inevitably to a decline in respect for the law as a whole. Thus things fall apart, and the center cannot hold.
It stands to reason, therefore, that all these problems would be resolved at a stroke if everyone were permitted to smoke, swallow, or inject anything he chose. The corruption of the police, the luring of children of 11 and 12 into illegal activities, the making of such vast sums of money by drug dealing that legitimate work seems pointless and silly by comparison, and the turf wars that make poor neighborhoods so exceedingly violent and dangerous, would all cease at once were drug taking to be decriminalized and the supply regulated in the same way as alcohol.

But a certain modesty in the face of an inherently unknowable future is surely advisable. That is why prudence is a political virtue: what stands to reason should happen does not necessarily happen in practice. As Goethe said, all theory (even of the monetarist or free-market variety) is gray, but green springs the golden tree of life. If drugs were legalized, I suspect that the golden tree of life might spring some unpleasant surprises.

It is of course true, but only trivially so, that the present illegality of drugs is the cause of the criminality surrounding their distribution. Likewise, it is the illegality of stealing cars that creates car thieves. In fact, the ultimate cause of all criminality is law. As far as I am aware, no one has ever suggested that law should therefore be abandoned. Moreover, the impossibility of winning the “war” against theft, burglary, robbery, and fraud has never been used as an argument that these categories of crime should be abandoned. And so long as the demand for material goods outstrips supply, people will be tempted to commit criminal acts against the owners of property. This is not an argument, in my view, against private property or in favor of the common ownership of all goods. It does suggest, however, that we shall need a police force for a long time to come.

In any case, there are reasons to doubt whether the crime rate would fall quite as dramatically as advocates of legalization have suggested. Amsterdam, where access to drugs is relatively unproblematic, is among the most violent and squalid cities in Europe. The idea behind crime—of getting rich, or at least richer, quickly and without much effort—is unlikely to disappear once drugs are freely available to all who want them. And it may be that officially sanctioned antisocial behavior—the official lifting of taboos—breeds yet more antisocial behavior, as the “broken windows” theory would suggest.

Having met large numbers of drug dealers in prison, I doubt that they would return to respectable life if the principal article of their commerce were to be legalized. Far from evincing a desire to be reincorporated into the world of regular work, they express a deep contempt for it and regard those who accept the bargain of a fair day’s work for a fair day’s pay as cowards and fools. A life of crime has its attractions for many who would otherwise lead a mundane existence. So long as there is the possibility of a lucrative racket or illegal traffic, such people will find it and extend its scope. Therefore, since even legalizers would hesitate to allow children to take drugs, decriminalization might easily result in dealers turning their attentions to younger and younger children, who—in the permissive atmosphere that even now prevails—have already been inducted into the drug subculture in alarmingly high numbers.

Those who do not deal in drugs but commit crimes to fund their consumption of them are, of course, more numerous than large-scale dealers. And it is true that once opiate addicts, for example, enter a treatment program, which often includes maintenance doses of methadone, the rate at which they commit crimes falls markedly. The drug clinic in my hospital claims an 80 percent reduction in criminal convictions among heroin addicts once they have been stabilized on methadone.

This is impressive, but it is not certain that the results should be generalized. First, the patients are self-selected: they have some motivation to change, otherwise they would not have attended the clinic in the first place. Only a minority of addicts attend, and therefore it is not safe to conclude that, if other addicts were to receive methadone, their criminal activity would similarly diminish.

Second, a decline in convictions is not necessarily the same as a decline in criminal acts. If methadone stabilizes an addict’s life, he may become a more efficient, harder-to-catch criminal. Moreover, when the police in our city do catch an addict, they are less likely to prosecute him if he can prove that he is undergoing anything remotely resembling psychiatric treatment. They return him directly to his doctor. Having once had a psychiatric consultation is an all-purpose alibi for a robber or a burglar; the police, who do not want to fill in the 40-plus forms it now takes to charge anyone with anything in England, consider a single contact with a psychiatrist sufficient to deprive anyone of legal responsibility for crime forever.

Third, the rate of criminal activity among those drug addicts who receive methadone from the clinic, though reduced, remains very high. The deputy director of the clinic estimates that the number of criminal acts committed by his average patient (as judged by self-report) was 250 per year before entering treatment and 50 afterward. It may well be that the real difference is considerably less than this, because the patients have an incentive to exaggerate it to secure the continuation of their methadone. But clearly, opiate addicts who receive their drugs legally and free of charge continue to commit large numbers of crimes. In my clinics in prison, I see numerous prisoners who were on methadone when they committed the crime for which they are incarcerated.

Why do addicts given their drug free of charge continue to commit crimes? Some addicts, of course, continue to take drugs other than those prescribed and have to fund their consumption of them. So long as any restriction whatever regulates the consumption of drugs, many addicts will seek them illicitly, regardless of what they receive legally. In addition, the drugs themselves exert a long-term effect on a person’s ability to earn a living and severely limit rather than expand his horizons and mental repertoire. They sap the will or the ability of an addict to make long-term plans. While drugs are the focus of an addict’s life, they are not all he needs to live, and many addicts thus continue to procure the rest of what they need by criminal means.

For the proposed legalization of drugs to have its much vaunted beneficial effect on the rate of criminality, such drugs would have to be both cheap and readily available. The legalizers assume that there is a natural limit to the demand for these drugs, and that if their consumption were legalized, the demand would not increase substantially. Those psychologically unstable persons currently taking drugs would continue to do so, with the necessity to commit crimes removed, while psychologically stabler people (such as you and I and our children) would not be enticed to take drugs by their new legal status and cheapness. But price and availability, I need hardly say, exert a profound effect on consumption: the cheaper alcohol becomes, for example, the more of it is consumed, at least within quite wide limits.

I have personal experience of this effect. I once worked as a doctor on a British government aid project to Africa. We were building a road through remote African bush. The contract stipulated that the construction company could import, free of all taxes, alcoholic drinks from the United Kingdom. These drinks the company then sold to its British workers at cost, in the local currency at the official exchange rate, which was approximately one-sixth the black-market rate. A liter bottle of gin thus cost less than a dollar and could be sold on the open market for almost ten dollars. So it was theoretically possible to remain dead drunk for several years for an initial outlay of less than a dollar.

Of course, the necessity to go to work somewhat limited the workers’ consumption of alcohol. Nevertheless, drunkenness among them far outstripped anything I have ever seen, before or since. I discovered that, when alcohol is effectively free of charge, a fifth of British construction workers will regularly go to bed so drunk that they are incontinent both of urine and feces. I remember one man who very rarely got as far as his bed at night: he fell asleep in the lavatory, where he was usually found the next morning. Half the men shook in the mornings and resorted to the hair of the dog to steady their hands before they drove their bulldozers and other heavy machines (which they frequently wrecked, at enormous expense to the British taxpayer); hangovers were universal. The men were either drunk or hung over for months on end.

Sure, construction workers are notoriously liable to drink heavily, but in these circumstances even formerly moderate drinkers turned alcoholic and eventually suffered from delirium tremens. The heavy drinking occurred not because of the isolation of the African bush: not only did the company provide sports facilities for its workers, but there were many other ways to occupy oneself there. Other groups of workers in the bush whom I visited, who did not have the same rights of importation of alcoholic drink but had to purchase it at normal prices, were not nearly as drunk. And when the company asked its workers what it could do to improve their conditions, they unanimously asked for a further reduction in the price of alcohol, because they could think of nothing else to ask for.

The conclusion was inescapable: that a susceptible population had responded to the low price of alcohol, and the lack of other effective restraints upon its consumption, by drinking destructively large quantities of it. The health of many men suffered as a consequence, as did their capacity for work; and they gained a well-deserved local reputation for reprehensible, violent, antisocial behavior.

It is therefore perfectly possible that the demand for drugs, including opiates, would rise dramatically were their price to fall and their availability to increase. And if it is true that the consumption of these drugs in itself predisposes to criminal behavior (as data from our clinic suggest), it is also possible that the effect on the rate of criminality of this rise in consumption would swamp the decrease that resulted from decriminalization. We would have just as much crime in aggregate as before, but many more addicts.

The intermediate position on drug legalization, such as that espoused by Ethan Nadelmann, director of the Lindesmith Center, a drug policy research institute sponsored by financier George Soros, is emphatically not the answer to drug-related crime. This view holds that it should be easy for addicts to receive opiate drugs from doctors, either free or at cost, and that they should receive them in municipal injecting rooms, such as now exist in Zurich. But just look at Liverpool, where 2,000 people of a population of 600,000 receive official prescriptions for methadone: this once proud and prosperous city is still the world capital of drug-motivated burglary, according to the police and independent researchers.

Of course, many addicts in Liverpool are not yet on methadone, because the clinics are insufficient in number to deal with the demand. If the city expended more money on clinics, perhaps the number of addicts in treatment could be increased five- or tenfold. But would that solve the problem of burglary in Liverpool? No, because the profits to be made from selling illicit opiates would still be large: dealers would therefore make efforts to expand into parts of the population hitherto relatively untouched, in order to protect their profits. The new addicts would still burgle to feed their habits. Yet more clinics dispensing yet more methadone would then be needed. In fact Britain, which has had a relatively liberal approach to the prescribing of opiate drugs to addicts since 1928 (I myself have prescribed heroin to addicts), has seen an explosive increase in addiction to opiates and all the evils associated with it since the 1960s, despite that liberal policy. A few hundred have become more than a hundred thousand.

At the heart of Nadelmann’s position, then, is an evasion. The legal and liberal provision of drugs for people who are already addicted to them will not reduce the economic benefits to dealers of pushing these drugs, at least until the entire susceptible population is addicted and in a treatment program. So long as there are addicts who have to resort to the black market for their drugs, there will be drug-associated crime. Nadelmann assumes that the number of potential addicts wouldn’t soar under considerably more liberal drug laws. I can’t muster such Panglossian optimism.

The problem of reducing the amount of crime committed by individual addicts is emphatically not the same as the problem of reducing the amount of crime committed by addicts as a whole. I can illustrate what I mean by an analogy: it is often claimed that prison does not work because many prisoners are recidivists who, by definition, failed to be deterred from further wrongdoing by their last prison sentence. But does any sensible person believe that the abolition of prisons in their entirety would not reduce the numbers of the law-abiding? The murder rate in New York and the rate of drunken driving in Britain have not been reduced by a sudden upsurge in the love of humanity, but by the effective threat of punishment. An institution such as prison can work for society even if it does not work for an individual.

The situation could be very much worse than I have suggested hitherto, however, if we legalized the consumption of drugs other than opiates. So far, I have considered only opiates, which exert a generally tranquilizing effect. If opiate addicts commit crimes even when they receive their drugs free of charge, it is because they are unable to meet their other needs any other way; but there are, unfortunately, drugs whose consumption directly leads to violence because of their psychopharmacological properties and not merely because of the criminality associated with their distribution. Stimulant drugs such as crack cocaine provoke paranoia, increase aggression, and promote violence. Much of this violence takes place in the home, as the relatives of crack takers will testify. It is something I know from personal acquaintance by working in the emergency room and in the wards of our hospital. Only someone who has not been assaulted by drug takers rendered psychotic by their drug could view with equanimity the prospect of the further spread of the abuse of stimulants.

And no one should underestimate the possibility that the use of stimulant drugs could spread very much wider, and become far more general, than it is now, if restraints on their use were relaxed. The importation of the mildly stimulant khat is legal in Britain, and a large proportion of the community of Somali refugees there devotes its entire life to chewing the leaves that contain the stimulant, miring these refugees in far worse poverty than they would otherwise experience. The reason that the khat habit has not spread to the rest of the population is that it takes an entire day’s chewing of disgustingly bitter leaves to gain the comparatively mild pharmacological effect. The point is, however, that once the use of a stimulant becomes culturally acceptable and normal, it can easily become so general as to exert devastating social effects. And the kinds of stimulants on offer in Western cities—cocaine, crack, amphetamines—are vastly more attractive than khat.

In claiming that prohibition, not the drugs themselves, is the problem, Nadelmann and many others—even policemen—have said that “the war on drugs is lost.” But to demand a yes or no answer to the question “Is the war against drugs being won?” is like demanding a yes or no answer to the question “Have you stopped beating your wife yet?” Never can an unimaginative and fundamentally stupid metaphor have exerted a more baleful effect upon proper thought.

Let us ask whether medicine is winning the war against death. The answer is obviously no, it isn’t winning: the one fundamental rule of human existence remains, unfortunately, one man one death. And this is despite the fact that 14 percent of the gross domestic product of the United States (to say nothing of the efforts of other countries) goes into the fight against death. Was ever a war more expensively lost? Let us then abolish medical schools, hospitals, and departments of public health. If every man has to die, it doesn’t matter very much when he does so.

If the war against drugs is lost, then so are the wars against theft, speeding, incest, fraud, rape, murder, arson, and illegal parking. Few, if any, such wars are winnable. So let us all do anything we choose.

Even the legalizers’ argument that permitting the purchase and use of drugs as freely as Milton Friedman suggests will necessarily result in less governmental and other official interference in our lives doesn’t stand up. To the contrary, if the use of narcotics and stimulants were to become virtually universal, as is by no means impossible, the number of situations in which compulsory checks upon people would have to be carried out, for reasons of public safety, would increase enormously. Pharmacies, banks, schools, hospitals—indeed, all organizations dealing with the public—might feel obliged to check regularly and randomly on the drug consumption of their employees. The general use of such drugs would increase the locus standi of innumerable agencies, public and private, to interfere in our lives; and freedom from interference, far from having increased, would have drastically shrunk.

The present situation is bad, undoubtedly; but few are the situations so bad that they cannot be made worse by a wrong policy decision.
The extreme intellectual elegance of the proposal to legalize the distribution and consumption of drugs, touted as the solution to so many problems at once (AIDS, crime, overcrowding in the prisons, and even the attractiveness of drugs to foolish young people) should give rise to skepticism. Social problems are not usually like that. Analogies with the Prohibition era, often drawn by those who would legalize drugs, are false and inexact: it is one thing to attempt to ban a substance that has been in customary use for centuries by at least nine-tenths of the adult population, and quite another to retain a ban on substances that are still not in customary use, in an attempt to ensure that they never do become customary. Surely we have already slid down enough slippery slopes in the last 30 years without looking for more such slopes to slide down.



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[info]maradydd
2009-06-30 04:39 pm UTC (link)
There is an enormous gap, however, between a policy which prevents the widespread abuse of drugs and a policy which bans even the clinical or research use of certain compounds, claiming that they have no redeeming qualities whatsoever. The latter is what we have today, and it has slowed the progress of neurological and medical research a great deal.

Three examples:

- Dr. Rick Strassman, a medical doctor, psychiatrist, and tenured professor at the University of New Mexico, wished to study the behaviour of N,N-dimethyltryptamine -- an endogenous neurotransmitter, related to serotonin and melatonin, which the human brain produces on rare occasions, e.g. near-death experiences -- in the brains of human subjects. N,N-dimethyltryptamine is produced by many plants, and has been the subject of recreational use, thus the DEA has placed it in Schedule I: "no medical use." Current scientific research has not yet revealed how neurotransmitters work, and Strassman hoped to shed some light on this problem by comparing the behaviour of this extraordinary endogenous neurotransmitter -- how it moves through the brain, how it is metabolised, the experiences people have while under its influence -- to that of its more pedestrian cousins. Strassman was able to obtain approval for his research, but only after years of applying to the DEA, being rejected, and appealing over and over again. Although his research was fruitful, as far as I am aware no further research into this neurotransmitter has been approved.

- Dr. Alexander Shulgin, a researcher at Dow Chemical interested in the chemistry of phenethylamines (a structural class which includes amphetamines and MDMA), developed several "substituted phenethylamines", which attach a novel atom or functional group to the main carbon ring. Several of these substituted phenethylamines can incorporate a radioisotope, such as radioactive bromine or iodine, so that the behaviour of such chemicals in the brain can be studied directly and deductions can be made about the low-level molecular structure and behaviour of the brain itself (since different substitutions will produce molecules with different weights and electrical properties). However, due to DEA regulation, this research cannot be conducted at all, despite the fact that a safe dosage range in humans has already been determined. (Strassman only got approval because N,N-dimethyltryptamine is known to be produced by the human brain already.)

- Many migraine sufferers, such as myself, are able to obtain relief from a class of drugs called "triptans" which are closely related to psilocybin and LSD-25. We're the lucky ones. Other migraine sufferers -- who do not live in the United States -- obtain relief only from one or the other of these Schedule I drugs. Ongoing research with LSD-25 in Switzerland has yielded tremendous benefit for people who would otherwise be crippled by their migraines; it is, however, unlikely that US residents will be able to use the results of this research any time soon.

In attempting to avoid one slippery slope, we have fallen straight down another: namely, the belief that any substance with recreational potential that is not commonly in use must necessarily be of no medicinal or research value whatsoever.

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The Proportion Between Problem and Solution
[info]johncwright
2009-06-30 07:41 pm UTC (link)
The hardship Dr. Shulgin, forbidden to do his research, at the moment is an unintended consequence of forbidding bar owners (or for that matter, Ronald McDonald) from proffering free samples of addictive narcotics or stimulants with every purchase, inside colorful Pez dispensers, one free in every Happy Trip Meal, not to mention having Will Smith, Arnold Schwarzenegger, and Sandra Bullock artfully displayed by Hollywood's best and brightest minds, or Madison Avenue's to show the product at its best advantage to an impressionable audience.

We are not talking about the stoics of old Rome being allowed to chew a mildly narcotic leaf after a moderate dinner, nor are we talking about Pioneer wives or Pilgrims in hair shirts being offered a relatively mild dose of opium. We are talking about modern Americans, the most whining and weak-willed of proletarians in recent history, being offered the products of an advanced and sophisticated science of addiction.

Now, I do not doubt that the bureaucracies will make bad decisions. Which of the these two options is easier to implement, and has fewer bad side effects? (1) Have the administration revisit the Shuglin decision (2) legalize all intoxicating substances of every kind whatsoever.

The second option is akin to ordering the entire Navy scuttled, and all the officers and sailors discharged from service, because of the Tailhook scandal.

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Re: The Proportion Between Problem and Solution
[info]maradydd
2009-07-01 01:00 am UTC (link)
We are both in favour of #1. Alas, our government refuses to consider the notion, and instead places Dr. Shulgin's research in the same legal category as the local crack dealer cooking up a batch of rock. It is that sort of short-sightedness that I would see remedied.

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[info]robert_mitchell
2009-06-30 05:02 pm UTC (link)
Yes, the only "viable" argument I have seen advanced to end the drug wars because of the amazing corruption of our legal system that has occurred. Certainly something must be done about "no knock" raids and law enforcement enriching themselves with property seized when drugs are "found".

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[info]johncwright
2009-06-30 07:23 pm UTC (link)
Since I abhor no-knock raids, and regard asset forfeitures as pure corruption as bad as anything under a czarist regime, or communist, you will find none as ardent as I am to abolish these hateful practices and return to a rule of law.

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Czarist Regime?
[info]robert_mitchell
2009-06-30 07:36 pm UTC (link)
Far worse then under a czarist regime. Look up who Lenin was "punished" by the czar. There are letters from his (Lenin's) wife complaining about the number of servants they had been given, with a demand for more!

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[info]randallsquared
2009-07-01 12:19 am UTC (link)
Let us ask whether medicine is winning the war against death.

I suppose it wouldn't be germane to suggest that victory is within sight? :)

As for the effects of prohibition repeal on alcohol and other drug consumption: I think it's obvious from the legality of various chemicals in the Netherlands and alcohol in the US that culture is a big determiner of the social effects of availability. Alcohol is effectively as free for the middle class in the US as it was for those workers, and yet we don't see the same patterns.

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[info]maradydd
2009-07-01 01:16 am UTC (link)
Worth noting: the incidents which have impelled the Netherlands to tighten up its drug laws involve, to a one, foreign "drug tourists" turning up to engage in binges and other risky behaviours. (If memory serves, the case which led to the banning of hallucinogenic mushrooms had to do with the ludicrously irresponsible behaviour of a French girl.)

Dutch coffeeshops are noticeably bimodal. In Amsterdam, the establishments which cater to tourists tend to be loud, raucous, and full of people getting stoned to the point of incoherence. Those frequented by locals are much smaller and quieter, with the atmosphere of a neighbourhood bar where the sport that attracts the most attention is board games. Towns which do not see much in the way of tourist custom feature the latter pretty much exclusively; I have seen people gently escorted out of coffeeshops in Maastricht for having interrupted the regulars.

(The Benelux is just like that. If you ever want to be amazed by how civil police action can be, try watching Belgian cops break up a bar fight.)

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[info]thefish30
2009-07-01 10:20 am UTC (link)
Alcohol is effectively as free for the middle class in the US as it was for those workers

Where are you buying your alcohol? I need to shop there, cause I can't even afford enough booze to stay drunk for a weekend. ;)

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[info]randallsquared
2009-07-01 10:42 am UTC (link)
I don't usually drink, but it appears you can buy 12-18 six-packs for $100. If you're staying drunk, I suppose there's no point in buying more expensive alcohol anyway, is there? :)

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[info]arhyalon
2009-07-02 01:58 pm UTC (link)
>it appears you can buy 12-18 six-packs for $100.

!!!

You guys must be rolling in dough if you can afford $100 a weekend on booze!

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[info]randallsquared
2009-07-02 10:20 pm UTC (link)
Dinner for two can easily be $60, and if you go to a movie after that's another $30-40, and that's just Friday. I imagine most (middle-class, I originally specified, which starts around 50K these days, right?) people spend more than $100 a weekend on stuff they want to do, so it's not like it's $100 *extra*. :)

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[info]arhyalon
2009-07-03 12:27 am UTC (link)
Hmm...they must not have kids. John and I spent $60 for our Twentith Anniversary dinner...but that was a once in a long time kind of thing. We're lucky if we can afford $30 to buy everyone bagels and drinks.

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[info]arhyalon
2009-07-03 12:27 am UTC (link)
But you are right that $100 does not go that far nowadays!

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[info]randallsquared
2009-07-03 12:30 am UTC (link)
Yeah, I assume someone who wants to stay drunk all weekend doesn't have kids. I hope. :)

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[info]arhyalon
2009-07-03 12:56 am UTC (link)
Oh, that made me laugh...yes, good point. ;-)

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[info]jackaroonie
2009-07-03 01:02 am UTC (link)
12-18 6-packs!?! For a weekend!?! Drinking that much WATER could kill you!

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[info]ndrosen
2009-07-01 03:51 am UTC (link)
No-knock warrants, which we both disapprove of, are products of the War on (Some) Drugs. If you are suspected of having two dozen stolen television sets in your house, the police can knock, show you their warrant, look around, and determine whether or not you do have these stolen items, without ambushing your family and shooting your dog. If you're suspected of possessing an ounce of crack, knocking would give you a chance to flush the stuff down the toilet, so --

I am not blind to Dr. Dalrymple's arguments (I first read that essay some time ago, in a collection of his), and yet --

Most of the population was not incapacitated by narcotics back in the 19th and early 20th centuries, when you could just walk into a pharmacy and buy opium or heroin without a prescription. Most Americans had not heard of marijuana, let alone gotten high on it, in the 1930's, when an unemployed alcohol prohibition agent started a moral panic against the evil weed. Since we enacted drug prohibition, our drug problems have surely not gone away, illegal drugs are rather easy to obtain, and prohibition has created evils of its own. You don't have to think that drug abuse is harmless, or even harmless to everyone except those who just to drown their minds in narcotics or worse, in order to think that the evils of the War on (Some) Drugs outweigh the evils of drugs.

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[info]arhyalon
2009-07-02 02:00 pm UTC (link)
>Most of the population was not incapacitated by narcotics back in the 19th and early 20th centuries, when you could just walk into a pharmacy and buy opium or heroin without a prescription.

Nor were they all eating candy, or overweight, or doing the other 1000s of bad things American's do...because it was before the Madison Avenue ad machine.

If it's legal, what is to stop Starbucks and MacDonalds from putting it in their products (publically)...after all, people might by more of them that way.

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[info]adt6247
2009-07-02 06:43 pm UTC (link)
If people know about it, so what? They are adults, and should be able to do whatever stupid thing they want in a secular, pluralistic society. I also think McDonald's should sell beer, and Starbucks should offer shots of Sambuca or whiskey in their coffee.

I've never consumed illegal substances in my life, but I fail to see why they should be treated differently than my drugs of choice, namely alcohol and tobacco. G. K. Chesterton once said "No animal ever invented anything so bad as drunkenness – or so good as drink." Drunkenness, an objective mortal sin, is the result in immoderate consumption of alcohol. Could not similar cases be made for moderate consumption of other drugs?

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If I want to cut off my own head, so what?
[info]johncwright
2009-07-02 09:27 pm UTC (link)
"If people know about it, so what? They are adults, and should be able to do whatever stupid thing they want in a secular, pluralistic society..."

Please read the article above. There are significant negative externalities to drug intoxication.

If drugs could be used with no significant drawbacks, the laws to make them illegal would never have been passed. Those laws were passed precisely because drug abuse became a life-threatening pandemic in the second half of the Twentieth Century. Are we allowed to learn nothing from experience? Is a theoretical regard for a pluralistic secular society not allowed to take into account facts, the history, the record, the crimesheet?

Also, I scoff at the ideals of a secular, pluralistic society. I am an Aristotelian at least in this regard: society is not merely a morally neutral compact made to allow us to survive in a hard world. Society is an organism whose final cause is liberty and the good life.

Liberty means freedom from vice, as well as freedom from trespass, or it means nothing at all. Merely a democracy of appetites is not virtuous nor healthy for a man nor for a state.

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Re: If I want to cut off my own head, so what?
[info]adt6247
2009-07-03 02:59 am UTC (link)
If you cut your own head off, there's little the law could do to punish you.

I did read the article, and I am also against the very concept of a secular, pluralistic society. I would prefer to live in an explicitly Catholic monarchy that is merely tolerant, not accepting, of other faiths that do not pose a significant threat to the state. I take a somewhat Aristotelian/Thomistic approach myself.

I believe because a secular, pluralistic democracy has no guiding principles whatsoever, its government should have as little power as possible. It should protect from force and fraud, and nothing else. A proper Christian government, however, has strong, fixed, and absolute guiding principles to back it up. A Catholic monarch has the church as his checks and balances. A democracy is slave to the whims of the people, and as such, it must be extremely limited in scope.

I scoff at the idea that laws are on the books because they are necessary. There are innumerable examples where this is not the case.

What of the negative effects of alcohol and tobacco? In moderation, both are relatively harmless. In excess, both are incredibly harmful. The same can be said for many illegal substances. The case can be made for outlawing heroine or crack, but marijuana?

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I would trust my grandfather's generation with drugs. Not this one.
[info]johncwright
2009-07-02 09:20 pm UTC (link)
"Most of the population was not incapacitated by narcotics back in the 19th and early 20th centuries, when you could just walk into a pharmacy and buy opium or heroin without a prescription."

As I said above: "We are not talking about the stoics of old Rome being allowed to chew a mildly narcotic leaf after a moderate dinner, nor are we talking about Pioneer wives or Pilgrims in hair shirts being offered a relatively mild dose of opium. We are talking about modern Americans, the most whining and weak-willed of proletarians in recent history, being offered the products of an advanced and sophisticated science of addiction."

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Re: I would trust my grandfather's generation with drugs. Not this one.
[info]ndrosen
2009-07-03 03:42 am UTC (link)
If this generation is so much worse than its predecessors (and one can find grounds to say that it is, or grounds to say that any previous generation of which we have record had its own share of wickedness and folly), can our generation be trusted to conduct the War on (Some) Drugs, with all its attendant problems?

We run into Jefferson's Paradox: If men are unfit to govern themselves, can they therefore be fit to govern other men?

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[info]flaminphonebook
2009-07-01 10:58 am UTC (link)
Dr. Dalrypmle expresses himself plainly and directly, which is helpful in putting my disagreements with him into sharp relief.

"Human affairs cannot be decided by an appeal to an infallible rule, expressible in a few words, whose simple application can decide all cases. . ."

But such a rule is exactly what I'm arguing for. It would have a great advantage over the chaotic state in which we live and which Dr. Dalrymple agrees. It would lessen the burden of toil of man. Thought-work would be eased and we would be able to base all our thoughts on a fundament that need not be questioned. Some people get this through faith; I get it through convention.

"In practice, of course, it is exceedingly difficult to make people take all the consequences of their own actions—as they must, if Mill’s great principle is to serve as a philosophical guide to policy. Addiction to, or regular use of, most currently prohibited drugs cannot affect only the person who takes them—and not his spouse, children, neighbors, or employers."

In which case this opens the door to claiming that any action has negative consequences and can be regulated, which is the slippery slope to cap-and-trade laws.

The syllogism here seems to be that nothing may be taken to a logical extreme. Which nicely deflects any arguments against it, since to do so one must take the syllogism itself to its logical extreme. So it plays out like this:

Libertarian: I say I may take drugs since the action comprises no direct harm to others.

Dalrymplian: But there is indirect harm to others, which society may curtail.

Libertarian: But there would also be indirect harm from the curtailing, ot even from talking about curtailing, so that should also be curtailed.

Dalrymplian: But the net effect is beneficial to society. . . even if it can't be shown directly.

Libertarian: A) If you can't show it, why should I trust it, and B) is it right to benefit society at the cost of the individual?

Dalrymplian: A) Common sense, and B) yeah!

A is the argument of epistemology, and B the argument of values. Libertarian epistemology and values are essentially matters of opinion, but defensible.

More from the Dr.

"It [drug consumption] impairs their ability to pursue more important human aims. . . "

Important by whose standards?

"We lose remarkably little by not being permitted to take drugs."

Again, matter of values. If my raison d'etre is to achieve chemical euphoria, I lose an awful lot by this.

And by my lights, arguing that freedom from the slings and arrows of life is the same as or superior to freedom from the caprices of our fellow men devalues man far more than does chemical dependency.

In short, I am a libertarian, and am unconvinced by these arguments for these reasons:

-The desires of individuals are my highest value
-The desire to shirk from complexity and work are almost universal and quite logical
-Therefore, a simple philosophy is warranted
-Libertarianism satisfies all these points.

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[info]marycatelli
2009-07-01 02:13 pm UTC (link)
The first thing you offer in support of your rule is that it is a "great advantage."

Only if it works.

And why on earth should something be true if and only if it's advantageous?

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Simpler to adopt a complex philosophy
[info]johncwright
2009-07-02 09:37 pm UTC (link)
"The desire to shirk from complexity and work are almost universal and quite logical"

Did you come by this conclusion by a simple and simple-minded deduction, or did you need to think deeply and thoroughly about it?

Let me point out that the desire to avoid the work of thinking can find a far better work-reward ratio by resting on good authority and tradition. The authority has done all the work. Tradition contains the distilled mental effort and experience of countless generations, most of them smarter and tougher than yours. Even better, tradition polishes and crystallizes its findings into custom, written law, and simple maxims.

On the other hand, a simpleminded philosophy or simpleminded law cannot cover all the cases. The main reason why laws are complicated and subtle is because general laws always, always, always, lead to absurdities and injustices when applied to cases on their verge.

Your simpleminded philosophy has not been time-tested, and this would require additional thought work on your part, and on the part of those who might seek to implement it. On the other hand, my philosophy, which I have worked out in excruciating details with loving diligence, is firmly rooted in generations of thought by the most brilliant minds of all the centuries of history. It is time-tested.

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Addiction
[info]gray_roger
2009-07-01 02:29 pm UTC (link)
The real problem is that we do not understand the addiction process. Most people can drink alcohol without any resulting social problems but 10%-15% of the population is enslaved by an uncontrolable urge to drink. (think about this - roughly 1 in 5 of the population had at least one alcoholic parent. Scary!). Nobody knows why this is true, which is why "treatment programs" are largely unsuccessful. Having dealt with alcoholic relatives, I know this to be all too true. Some research has shown significant changes in brain chemistry and brain activity in "addictive" personalitites. We need to know more.
I will not listen to any arguements about drug legalization until there is actual understanding of the addiction process and actual effective medical treatments available.

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